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Post by ig_daddy on Jan 15, 2004 19:29:06 GMT -8
Iggi is gravid, and her appetite has gone down to nothing. This really drives my wife crazy, as she wants food in, and poop out, every day. Is there anything special that anyone does with a gravid ig? Any special food? Thanks.
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Post by Yoda on Jan 15, 2004 19:32:04 GMT -8
Pickles and Ice Cream..... ;D
Sorry ...I just couldnt resist..
James and Yoda
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Post by Tesa on Jan 16, 2004 5:05:47 GMT -8
lmao James!! ig_daddy, I'm sorry. I'm absolutely no help here. As far as I know you just have to wait it out. Remind the wife what it felt like when she was about 8 and 1/2 months preggers. Even tho you think you're ravenous, you quickly run out of space to put food.
Keep us updated!!
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Post by WillemsMom on Jan 16, 2004 17:39:36 GMT -8
Food in...poop out..lmao... leave it to a mom to be strong in this area. I like your wife! haha
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Post by SurvivorSteph on Jan 16, 2004 17:49:49 GMT -8
LAMO @ James!
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Post by prism_wolf on Feb 8, 2004 9:11:05 GMT -8
How's the expected momma coming along? Gravid igs hardly eat at all, just make sure she's hydrated. Being nearly 3 weeks since you posted I wouldn't be surprised if she was close to laying if she hasn't laid already.
If she's had a healthy diet, good temps and UVB, just make sure she's got plenty of water intake. Feeding watery treats is a great way to add fluids, like grapes, watermelon and such.
Get her in for x-rays to make sure she's laid them all once you think she's done. Some people suggest doing it before laying as well. I didn't, but after she laid 54 eggs for me I sure wanted to make sure she was finished.
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Post by dominick on Feb 8, 2004 15:30:44 GMT -8
Hi Lamar-
Don't forget calcium supplements. Very important to gravid Igs. the egg shells suck the calcium right out of their bodies!
Debbie, can you help here?
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Post by prism_wolf on Feb 9, 2004 11:26:49 GMT -8
I'm not Debbie, but maybe I can help here, too.
Calcium cardonate.
You can get it in the Wal-Mart pharmacy. Get it into a powder form and hide i little bit in her food. If your tricky enough you can pack it into her grapes and get it into her that way.
After I get home this afternoon about 5:00 or so I can dig up a dosage. Usually it's a sprinkle a day so you can barely see a dust on a regular salad...so estimate a sprinkle inside the grapes.
I never added any calcium to my girls diet...mainly because I didn't know she was gravid until AFTER she laid eggs. Her blood panel showed her calcium very low, but still a couple of points over the minimum level before being calcium deficient.
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Post by prism_wolf on Feb 9, 2004 17:50:53 GMT -8
This is quoted to a 10-kg ig which is about 22 pounds of ig. I'm sure we're not working with this big of a lizard. The dusting is what I would go with...less than an 1/8 of a tsp. (or a small pinch) every other day.
Too much calcium can be just as deadly as not enough. Asking an experienced herp vet using the weight of your ig can give you the exact dose needed to keep her healthy.
The last sentence of the quote has two names of calcium supplements I am not familiar with. Neo-calglucon and Calcium Sandoz. A quick Google search turned up lots of hits for info, but I don't have time to research them myself until tomorrow.
Hope this helps guys and gals... ;D
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Post by Debbie on Feb 10, 2004 6:37:57 GMT -8
Hey Lamar, this is Debbie and I have 2 females and both have been gravid and had problems.
Hopefully Iggi will not have problems and she will lay her eggs succesfully. 1). Keep your eyes on her at all times. If you see her starting to push alot and nothing is comming out she could be egg bound and that is not good. She could prolaps pushing so hard that she could push out her intestines. This happend to Bam-Bam the very first time she became gravid.
2). Have you bilt a nesting box? If you haven't chances are she may absorb the eggs.
3). how long has it been sense she ate? 4). Is she lathargic? 5) Have you seen her pushing without and progress? If you have seen any of these thing she needs to go to the vet. In my opinion, a gravid female in captivity is not a good thing just because it is not a natural enviorment and they tend to have problems.
I have not had any good luck when it comes to gravid females, so I have had both of my girls spayded. It is just a lot safer for them. And if I hadn't I prob would have lost both of them to being egg bound.
Please do not that this as a pushing for the spaying If you feel that she can pass the eggs and she is not dehydrated or acting like she is not well. Go for it. But like I said before, being egg bound can and will kill her. So to be on the safe side I would take her to the vet ASAP just to make sure she is not having any complications.
Hope this helps you and good luck and let us know what is going on.
Debbie Iggy Bam-BAm and Miss Zak.
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Post by prism_wolf on Feb 10, 2004 8:51:41 GMT -8
You've raised some good questions Debbie...Hi and glad to meet you... I would like to make a comment on spaying. This should be a last option operation. I have not had much personal experience with gravid igs. I have one that became gravid last year and she did well considering I had no idea she was gravid...the little demon...lol. I have kept up with others' stories, experiences and lots of reading. The majority of all laying problems is lack of calcium and dehydration...as much as we try, hydration can still be a real problem. One thing I do is (especially in the winter) is to syringe water down the greenies a couple of times a week...about 5 cc's for the big ones...3cc's for the little one. My big ones also drink out of the sprayer when I mist them. I just start squirting at their mouths and then synchronize the squirts to the licks...lol. Talk about a tired hand after a session of this. This is Zair's favorite way of getting water. Here's a wonderful article on spaying and strongly suggest it's reading: www.anapsid.org/iguana/spayneuter.html Some igs do require spays, such as when dystocia sets in, but most other problems can be prevented by yearly blood panels checking for appropriate calcium levels and plenty of water...
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Post by Debbie on Feb 10, 2004 10:55:31 GMT -8
Yes I know that surgery should be the last option.
We gave Miss Zak plenty of time to see if she was going to lay hers or absorb them. she did absorb them but not all of them. She became egg bound and that put her life in jepardy. Her calcium and her liver enzymes went through the roof. Our vet said that the only way to make her better was to spay her so we did.
Bam-Bam became gravid at the age of 2 and one day when we came home from work she had prolapsed and her insides were hanging out and we took her the emergency hospital and then to her vet the next day. She could not pass the eggs and she was in the hospital for 1 week because she kept prolapsing. That is when we had her spayded. I figure they will never be bred and risking their lifes for eggs, to me I just don't think I could live with myself if anything happened to my girls when it could have been prevented.
I have read on the GIS of several female igs that have died from being egg bound and the owners did not recignize the complications in time to get them to the vet and when they did ....... it was too late and they lost their beloved babies.
You are right though lots of captive Igs do not have problems and some do. I guess I got the ones that do have the problems. lol ;D
what ever discision that is made I hope that everything comes out for the best.
Debbie Iggy Bam-Bam and Miss Zak.
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Post by prism_wolf on Feb 10, 2004 11:09:23 GMT -8
And what are the odds that you'd have two!? Our ig companions thrive on causing us grief!!
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Post by Tesa on Feb 11, 2004 9:55:46 GMT -8
Just like human kids!! ;D
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