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Post by dominick on Dec 4, 2004 20:11:09 GMT -8
WHOA....... Let me clarify:Mega-Ray SB is sold at ReptileUV and NOW Reptile Direct. It's the $39, SB bulb, same on both sites. True, Reptile Direct's site is misleading, I just finished writing that e-mail to Bob to straighten that out. They simply copy/pasted my text from ReptileUV with no regard for how it applies to their site. Sean, thank you for the vote of confidence over the customer service factor. In my mind, all things being equal, I would much rather deal with the person who helped invent the lamp than the ones who are simply trying to sell it. Bob stands behind his product as you well know. I'm sure he would appreciate your positive comments. More Clarifications:The SB line DOES produce heat also, The EB Line DOES NOT produce heat. The EB REPLACEMENT bulb, only found at Reptile UV and also costing about $39 is not featured on Reptile Direct's site. They only have the SB-series (All-in-one)bulbs. There is definitely a 100-watt and 160-watt, par-38 SB lamp available at both sites. The "Zoo lamp" is a 60-watt EB lamp. Only available, and like Sean said, rightfully so, to qualified Zoologists and experienced rehabbers who actually own a UVB Meter. They are Serious UVB! I hope this helps to clarify everything for you. Order the SB-series (all-in-one) lamp from whatever site you choose, it will still produce more UVB and last longer than other lamps currently on the market.
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Post by prism_wolf on Dec 4, 2004 20:44:13 GMT -8
Well...I just sent an e-mail to Bob...man am I gonna sound like an idiot...lol. I'm glad you cleared that up, Dom. I guess I am tired...and needing to close my tired eyes. The last two days has me not thinking very well... .
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Post by Tesa on Dec 5, 2004 4:26:57 GMT -8
The EB Line DOES NOT produce heat. wait a cottonpickin minute!! I have burned my hand on the surface of the bulb from the EB unit I purchased!! What's up with that?
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Post by mar on Dec 5, 2004 5:42:18 GMT -8
Any electrical device which you supply poewr to will create heat, the EB MRay Flood creates about as much heat as a 60W light bulb and if you grab it it will be warm. However go grab a 100W light bulb when on and you will find it to be much warmer. Even a 3W christmas light creates heat, just not much.
60W generally is not enough power output to get a basking area warm enough. I think the site is correct in saying this bulb is not to be depended on as a heat source. There are a few other errors through the site but they are not bad errors at all.
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When I made the purchase I looked long term at the outputs of the bulbs.
The EB is guarrenteed to output at least 50 µW * cm^(-2) for a full 12 months. The Ballast is good for at least two years.
The SB is only guarrenteed to output at least 50 µW * cm^(-2) for 6 months.
As I don't have a meter I would be replacing the SB 3 times in two years (after initial purchase) for a total of about $160 to ensure UVB levels for Bob.
With the EB I will only replace it once in two years for a total of $115.
Heat emitters are usually about $30 so I see my self saving in the long run with the EB.
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Post by iamslotman on Dec 5, 2004 6:14:02 GMT -8
Thanks to all for the great advice... sorry I confused some with my confusion.(guess its contagious) I agree with marks logic and I will get the mega ray EB as everyone suggested... and I will get it from Bob Mac... I will also buy the heat ray bulb so that I can alternate the uvb and the heat bulb daily so that both iguanas get some uvb until I find a home for Lilly. That was a hard choice choosing which to keep, they are both so nice. My granddaughter made the choice. Right now Lilly is still in the 30 gal tank with only a 60w reptilebulb. After I put the movie camera light over Buddy to increase the temp he changed energy after only an hour... He now is climbing all over but he isn't using the nice carpeted poles I installed at slopes to go from shelf to shelf, he instead likes straddling the screen mesh that makes the walls.... he stretches so far between steps that he looks gigantic.... he actually spent the night hanging from the wall.... hes eating collard greens and romaine now too.... when you say lettuce is n/g as a food I assume you mean iceberg lettuce? we use alot of dark romaine lettuce at home and I hope thats ok to give him?
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Post by IguanaKing on Dec 5, 2004 6:33:02 GMT -8
Romaine is only slightly better than Iceberg, and only in SOME ways. It actually has a worse Ca : P ratio 0.77:1, Iceberg is 1.00:1. Its OK to feed him a little of this with his greens, it won't hurt him, just remember that it'll take up room in his stomach that could be filled with better food. A little junk food every now and then won't do him any harm.
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Post by Yoda on Dec 5, 2004 7:11:15 GMT -8
I run the 60w MR EB and have a temp probe 6 inches away ..It never reads higher than 80F ,however the bulb surface may get much hotter to the touch .. It just dosnt seem to radiate much usable heat past the bulbs surface.
A seperate externall heat source is a definate requirment if choosing the EB model in order to get temps up to 95+ .
James and Yoda
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Post by mar on Dec 5, 2004 7:22:05 GMT -8
I have the heat projector you are talking about. I like the product but it took a long time to get used to how it works. The "heat beam" it projects if very focused and outside of that beam the lizard does not recieve the heating effect.
During the day I accent the temps with a 100W light bulb and at night I only have the HP on my thermostat.
The biggest thing that will help your temps is to enclose the cage. Simply attaching sheeting to the mesh (on the out side) will help a lot. I have no problem with temps in my PVC frame fabric cages because they are enclosed. Air is a great insulator so it you can just slow or stop its flow heat will remain where you want it.
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Post by dominick on Dec 5, 2004 8:06:28 GMT -8
wait a cottonpickin minute!! I have burned my hand on the surface of the bulb from the EB unit I purchased!! What's up with that? Reminds me that I have to add the warning: Never touch a hot lamp, it can burn you.
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Post by mar on Dec 5, 2004 8:23:30 GMT -8
Reminds me that I have to add the warning: Never touch a hot lamp, it can burn you. Mannnn, I hate how people make it so safety warnings take up more of the package than cool pictures and logs. "Well, your honor, the light socket never said not to stick my finger in it to see if it was plugged in. How should I have known" ;D
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Post by Tesa on Dec 5, 2004 9:49:27 GMT -8
I wasn't burned THAT badly! I'm just saying...it DOES produce heat, just not enough to be used as the main source.
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Post by iamslotman on Dec 6, 2004 6:18:37 GMT -8
I am so glad you all took the time to reply. I received an email from Tom Luther @ reptiledirect and he said I need the mega ray 160W along with the heat ray bulb. This would be too much according to what I read here. I will call reptile uv today. While I have you... one more question .... as a fill in between shopping trips for fresh greens, can I substitute a can of green beans such as Green Giant? (no pun intended)
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Post by prism_wolf on Dec 6, 2004 6:48:44 GMT -8
Only very occassionally...and get the stuff that states "no salt added".
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Post by iamslotman on Dec 6, 2004 15:17:06 GMT -8
I spoke with Bob @ iguanauv and he suggested the same as you all did. I ordered one mega-ray EB setup and two heat ray bulbs. He also told me alot of good care tips which I appreciated. He feels the basking shelf being 12" from the top is too close for the mega-ray and I am moving it down so its 16"-18" as he suggested. The 12" location is more suited for florescent bulb uv's I was told.
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Post by dominick on Dec 6, 2004 16:03:02 GMT -8
Glad to hear it slotman!
Your iguana will love you for it!
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