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Post by Jen on Jun 24, 2008 7:23:10 GMT -8
I know exactly what you mean, good idea though, I would call the rescue and ask. Last year we took in a 2yr old Ig we named Loki, dehydrated, advanced MBD, heat rock burns. He didnt have a chance, your little one does have a chance. Make some calls and ask these questions iguanaden.org/health/askvet.htm
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Post by debcat76135 on Jun 24, 2008 7:55:46 GMT -8
Thanks for the link. I had seen that site before but never went through the photo gallery. I did help to see that in away as I did see that he is not a thin as some on there! Poor things. How can no one be punished for what they do to these guys? If I did this to a cat I would be in JAIL!! Oh how long dose it take to get all the stuck shed off these guys? There is still shed coming off and it has been a week of 2x a day baths!! Bless his heart! You know I just keep telling him he has to pull through as I am totally in love already and really want to get the chance to meet the real Ig that is in there under all this junk!
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Post by Jen on Jun 24, 2008 8:03:51 GMT -8
It may take some time for it to all come off, keep an eye on the toes, spikes, and tail for shed that is starting to constrict the area, dont want to lose any Iggy peices. Keep soaking and misting and hydrating.
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Post by debcat76135 on Jun 25, 2008 16:23:22 GMT -8
So more bad news. Today after his bath a large piece of shed came off his tail and after it did pus started pouring out of his tail.. He is still accepting food and a bit of water at times not much though.. acting more lifeless than ever. The vet says he give him about a 10-20% chance of survival and started the talk about maybe needing to PTS. I got so mad tonight I did something I probably should not have done and emailed the previous owner.. there response was they had no ideal it was sick and that the adoption fee just barely covered the cage cost so basically I got the Iguana for free... Some response eh? Really was your well loved pet huh? Then suggested I contact a local pet store for treatment advice!!! Man I think I hate people!!! Just wondering here if calling the humane socity would do any good?
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Post by Jen on Jun 25, 2008 16:40:56 GMT -8
The response you recieved, sure is proof enough of how ::)well love that poor Ig was. I am so sorry you are going through this, its hard. Does it look like the tail was injured? So what are you going to do?
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Post by debcat76135 on Jun 25, 2008 17:29:00 GMT -8
I don't know what I am going to do right now. I am so sick over this. I have bonded with the guy so much during his care and would hate to lose him. Yet at the same time I do not want him to suffer and hurt if he can't be helped in the end. As for the tail it did look like there was an old scare but it did not look swollen or anything like that. Just looked like there was some stuck shed around an old scar. But after I got him out of the tub and in a whole layer of shed fell off the yellow puss came out under it there is white looking I guess skin?? but it still dose not look like a deep wound or anything?? God poor baby. I am just so sick and hurt right now and SO worried for my poor baby!! It has only been a little over a week and this is killing me how can his previous owner not give a darn!
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Post by crazybaby on Jun 25, 2008 19:45:09 GMT -8
Well I would give the wet dog food vet a try, just dont take the advice about feeding dog food. You could call and talk to the vet about your concerns, with the medications and such. After doing a little research, a good worming may be in order, but Ivermectin sounds like very iffy choice. In no way or at all is an iguana going to benefit from eating animal protein. It may boost the strength momentarily but it will deteriorate any other strenght he has in his organs and shorten his life. Never feed an iguana animal protein. The vet obviously hasn't a bloody clue he'd likely tell you that crickets are also a good idea. Iguana's get great protein from a balanced diet, if mashed into a mushy substance this will do more for a sick iguana that wet dog food. debcat76135- Keep at it. You sound like a great trooper. With time he should gain weight and regain movement. It could take a few months for a nice weight to be gained but he's on the right track. If you do not feel comfortable with your Vet's suggestion of drugs (which I highly agree shouldn't be subscribed until the real cause of illness is discovered) then you do not have to opt in that direction. Just because a vet says something most people beilieve that they have to take the advice...Not the case. You won't be criminally charged for taking alternate methods and you will likely be better off for it. Keep up the sunshine visits and hydration (this is very important) and keep up with feedings. If you can make a "relish" like thing you can stuff in his mouth with all the good greens and veggies (like a slush) and this will help get the nutrients in his body and get digestion patterns going. Another thing you might consider acquiring is a probiotic. His gut flora (good bacteria) might be on the low side which slows digestion and weakends him should a bad bacteria be living there too. Keep us posted on your progress, and kudos to you and your hard work. You will see...things will work out. All the best.
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Post by crazybaby on Jun 25, 2008 19:54:44 GMT -8
I don't know what I am going to do right now. I am so sick over this. I have bonded with the guy so much during his care and would hate to lose him. Yet at the same time I do not want him to suffer and hurt if he can't be helped in the end. As for the tail it did look like there was an old scare but it did not look swollen or anything like that. Just looked like there was some stuck shed around an old scar. But after I got him out of the tub and in a whole layer of shed fell off the yellow puss came out under it there is white looking I guess skin?? but it still dose not look like a deep wound or anything?? God poor baby. I am just so sick and hurt right now and SO worried for my poor baby!! It has only been a little over a week and this is killing me how can his previous owner not give a darn! You need to find a new vet I think. I know it may be far but this iguana will not benifit from a vet who will just diagnose a patient without having scientific proof to back it up. Doesn't exactly sound like they're hoping for this iguana to get anywhere. The puss is likely from a systemic infection (probably started with an abscess) which does need to be treated unfortunately. Once the puss forms and is runny, the wound can be flushed but if there is an underlying infection he will need meds. Like I mentioned in my last post, do get some probiotics (Benebac or Nutribac for example) and see about getting that infection treated. Keep him warm (95 iin the warm side and boost up ambient temps to around 80, it helps speed up recovery). Baytril works well, and I've also used Amikacin (I don't know he spelling) and it healed up an abscess in a toe on my Ig no problem. It's very very hard on the kidneys but if you keep him well hydrated, fed (with probiotics not very often but because of the meds he'll likely need it about every two weeks...someone correct me if I'm wrong about the dosage) and warm he will be on his way to a better all around health. Stick with it...My heart and hopes are with you.
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Post by debcat76135 on Jun 26, 2008 4:39:57 GMT -8
He passed in the night. I am barely able to keep it together right now to even post this. Crazybaby don't worry I did not get as far as taking him to the wet dog food vet as I felt he would do more harm than good with his protein ideals. I actually feel that my vet did the best that could be done. Calcium shot and vitamin shot for the MBD, Antibiotics for what presented as an URI but must have been a symptom of a underlying systemic infection. We were not able to do a blood draw on him due to his dehydrated malnourished state and the mites did not help as he had them we think long enough to make him anemic. I feel like such a faliure. All I wanted for this baby was a shot a the life he deserved. His whole life must have been hell and he fought so hard. He finally made it to me and I hope to give him a good life full of good food sunshine fresh water warm soaks and love as it is the least he deserved. Now he will never get to experince a good home. I have to stop now as I can not see the screen well...
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Post by prism_wolf on Jun 26, 2008 6:12:47 GMT -8
OH DEBCAT!! You tried...you cared...and that's what counts. I am so very sorry!! ((HUGS))
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Post by Jen on Jun 26, 2008 12:42:06 GMT -8
Im sorry he didnt make it. And you are wrong, he did experience a good home, YOURS. You made his last little bit of life worth living, and that counts. You gave it your all.
Crazybaby, you misunderstood what I wrote, Its hard to explain, but I wasnt saying give the wet dogfood, I would never recommend that.
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Post by crazybaby on Jun 26, 2008 16:44:13 GMT -8
Crazybaby, you misunderstood what I wrote, Its hard to explain, but I wasnt saying give the wet dogfood, I would never recommend that. Sorry if it sounded like I flew off the handle. I was just trying to protect the ig. Sometimes in dire situations people will do desperate things. Debcat, I'm so sorry for your loss. You gave it a valiant effort but even at the best of care they are often too far gone. But, if you go back and look at all the wonderful care YOU provided, you gave him a better life than he had with his previous home. Wonderful sunlight, frequent baths & hyrdation, a wonderful diet...There wasn't anything anyone could've done if he was passed the point of no-return before you got him in your care. Perhaps you will have another opportunity to bless another creature with your care, they could only be so lucky to have you. *hugs* He is at peace and that is the best thing.
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Post by Jen on Jun 26, 2008 17:12:01 GMT -8
[/quote]Sorry if it sounded like I flew off the handle. I was just trying to protect the ig. Sometimes in dire situations people will do desperate things. [/quote]
Its Ok I just wanted it known, that it was misinterpreted
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Post by debcat76135 on Jun 27, 2008 7:29:28 GMT -8
Thanks for all the kind words they do help. I find that while I am extremely sad that he passed I am even more angry. I am angry that he was even in that bad of shape to start with when lets face it these babies are not really THAT hard to care for right and form the start!! All it would take is one Google search to learn the basics BEFORE you run out and buy one!! All it takes is heat, humidity, and the right food!! I am angry at all the horrible abuse I have seen searching the web trying to care for him.. so many photos of MBD, burns, starvation, dehydration etc etc. And most of all I am angry that people who get these guys and claim to love them so much dump them when they get sick! I am also angry that the people who claimed to love him did not even have the morals or guts to be there with him at the end when he needed love the most! They don't have to see a big empty cage that rips your heart out just to look at.
Sorry for the vent. Really did not mean to go all psycho like that. I am sure you guys know all this already anyway! I have learned through this that those of you who rescues these guys must have hearts the size of Texas and made of gold. To be able to put it on the line each time one of these babies comes in and deal with the fact you may get it broken when they don't make it amazes me. I also know that while I am in great pain over this right now I don't think I could trun away from another in need! Why is that? Why would I ever even consider letting myself be hurt like this again?
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Post by prism_wolf on Jul 1, 2008 12:13:27 GMT -8
I also know that while I am in great pain over this right now I don't think I could trun away from another in need! Why is that? Why would I ever even consider letting myself be hurt like this again? Because hun ~ you have "sucker" written across your forhead...and you care. Nothing wrong with caring. My house of full of care... ;D. Venting is good. It helps mend a bit of soul. All we can do is our best. Educate those who need it. Some receive it with open minds - others completley reject it...but at least we try. For the animals that suffer from it - hopefully someone like us comes along and tries to mend them. Doesn't always work...as you're painfully aware...but sometimes...it's all we can do. ((HUGS)) CB - All I think Jennifer was trying to get across is that even though he suggested dog food - the rest of his care may be worthy - especially if the iguana vet pool is low. I would definitely choose another if I had a choice...but I would hope this vet would at least be willing to take the advice of a client - with the literature in hand as back-up - why dog food is so damaging. I hope I interprteted that right.
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