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Post by annemariet on Oct 24, 2007 22:34:01 GMT -8
I've a question about the green beans. It already came up in the topic where I introduced myself but I thought it was more in place in this categorie.
As for the green beans it is said on this forum not to cook them because for the vitamins. I'm also at a dutch forum for iguana's and there is said to cook them (al dente) so the toxic compounts (I believe it is lecitine) will go away.
Any input on the subject?
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Post by Merlin on Oct 25, 2007 4:36:15 GMT -8
Nonsense! Feed them raw.
You will find a lot of strange things on European forums!
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Post by prism_wolf on Oct 25, 2007 7:28:54 GMT -8
Europe says that!? They probably think we're nuts for feeding raw... ;D. Raw is the way to go. I may have to do a little research later to see where they think the toxins are.
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Post by IguanaKing on Oct 25, 2007 9:46:50 GMT -8
Yup, raw is the way to go. Just be sure to wash them really well, just like you do with your other fruits and veggies. Also, just to reinforce what V said in the other thread, make sure to chop them small. I use my food processor for this, since I have known some igs to get upset stomachs from eating green beans that were in pieces that were too big.
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Post by prism_wolf on Oct 25, 2007 11:16:52 GMT -8
Not only that, but the green beans being too big have gotten caught on the roof of the mouth scaring the wits out of owner for the crazy gaping that follows...  |
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Post by prism_wolf on Oct 25, 2007 15:02:56 GMT -8
Here's some info I have uncovered. It seems the cooked method would be an acceptable form of offering it to the ig. The short boiling time does not take enough away from the nutrients and the charts on cooked green/string beans is still quite good. The reason they may be so adamant about cooking them is that they contain cyanide which the short boiling time removes. Even though the cyanide is a measurable amount, it's still so small that it is harmless. Here's a really good...actually...I thought a treasure of a find...that explains exactly what your European friends are so worried about. www.rawfoodinfo.com/real%20letters/ltr_greenbeans.htmlIt still doesn't exactly answer the problem, but for me...and eating them as a child right off the vine...I've never had a problem...nor my sister...mom...of the dogs. I really don't see this as something to worry about to a large degree. And since this is just a small part of the overall diet anyway...has been perfectly safe for igs for many, many years...:-) I may search some more another time...but probably not until the middle of next week. |
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Post by IguanaKing on Oct 25, 2007 18:49:01 GMT -8
This has never been a problem for me or anyone in my family either. V, if it weren't for the fact that the information you found was in an obscure place on the internet, it would almost be like the E-Coli, West Nile, and Bird Flu stuff that our wonderful media takes and blows WAY out of proportion. ;D On a serious note though, I remember the words of a chemistry professor extremely well. He pointed to the Periodic Table of Elements and basically told us that, with the exception of the man-made elements, everything on that table would kill us, yet we need a little bit of each element in order to survive. I think the problem some people have with green beans, is no different than any other food allergy. There is a chemical compound in each food item that some individuals are hyper-sensitive to, while most are completely unaffected.
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Post by prism_wolf on Oct 26, 2007 5:32:38 GMT -8
Exactly. I will still forever et these things raw...and will continue to feed them raw...but it is what the Europeans are so up in arms over.
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Post by annemariet on Oct 28, 2007 2:24:01 GMT -8
I don't no if the europeans have less info but if you guys say it's is ok I'll feed them raw, save's also time in preparing the meals  |
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Post by prism_wolf on Oct 28, 2007 11:51:06 GMT -8
Saves lots of time. I couldn't imagine adding one more step to the process...  |
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Post by chefwallybear on Nov 2, 2007 12:35:10 GMT -8
My quaker parrot oscar eats green been raw everyday. I'm sure you could blanch them off but i wouldn't be too paranoid about cyinide. Mad cow seems like the biggie in europe lol.  |
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Post by prism_wolf on Nov 2, 2007 15:06:55 GMT -8
My quaker parrot oscar eats green been raw everyday. I'm sure you could blanch them off but i wouldn't be too paranoid about cyinide. Mad cow seems like the biggie in europe lol. Mad cow is at the top of their list for sure. Caroline...the African gray ets green beans, too. She eats the same salad the ig does...:-) |
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